JW Net and Politics

by snare&racket in

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this site was and remains instrumental in assisting people that want to leave the jw's.. there has been political discussion here for some time now, a good couple of years and it makes me feel a little uneasy.

i just opened up the site for the first time in some weeks, of the 10 posts being discussed, 4 were by the same poster, about politics, promoting their right wing beliefs.. this has been the trend for some time now, the same name behind a peppering of posts stirring the right v left of politics.. i remain forever grateful to the site and it's founders simon & angharad, i appreciate that simon shares some of these these political beliefs.

it would be a shame to see the site evolve from a place for jw freedom of thought and escape, to political squabbling, that the world is frankly tired of right now.. just to clarify, politics is my hobby, whilst my friends read the football scores, i'm reading polling data.

Anony Mous

As I said before. This site is about all things you do if you’re not a JW. I’ve had discussions about sex and kink and politics and families and children and house renovations.

Right now, the left has made politics an issue in everything. Go to school - left wing politics, go to an event - left wing politics, sports, marriage, social media everything is permeated with left wing politics.

For those of us that escaped JW-ism, current left wing views are very much akin to the WTBTS - you can’t say anything negative about their leaders, they are always right, the viewpoints change by the day and leadership can be as abusive and hypocritical as they want, raping children as in the case of Weinstein, Epstein and Clinton, creepy rapists like Biden and Cuomo but you say something bad about them or BLM or Antifa and you WILL GET FIRED from your job and removed from society as what happened recently to Gina Carano or that guy from Bachelor or Mike Rowe from Dirty Jobs or a host of other people.

So if everything is about politics, it makes sense that people on a largely anonymous site would like to speak their minds. The majority of people in this world does not like BLM or the anti-west viewpoints espoused by those on the left, but we need a place to speak.

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Book written by JW abuse survivor (zwart licht, witte schaduw)Zwart licht, witte schaduw

by Anony Mous in

it’s in dutch but i can attest to the person’s situation back in the day.

his father and mine were relatively close and both abusive tyrants.

he wrote this autobiography in the style of a romance novel (changing the characters) but i know the story is personal.

Anony Mous

It’s in Dutch but I can attest to the person’s situation back in the day. His father and mine were relatively close and both abusive tyrants. He wrote this autobiography in the style of a romance novel (changing the characters) but I know the story is personal. I hope it can be translated.

Book title translation: “black light, white shadow”

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Jonathan Goddyn

https://www.bol.com/nl/p/zwart-licht-witte-schaduw/9300000027608137/

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A Month In and Bombs Are Already Falling

by Simon in

so about a month in to biden's presidency and they are already bombing a country.. remind me how trump was going to bring about wwiii with north korea, iran, china and god knows who else?

did he?

no.. but straight back to business as usual for the military industrial complex and crickets from their media buddies..

Anony Mous

@slimboyfat: no, the assassination was Mossad, Israel’s CIA. Trump rocketed an Iranian terrorist in response to terrorist drone attacking key US infrastructure. Biden, after Iran attacked a US Embassy (similar style to Benghazi), decided to drone strike an empty Shia muslim outpost in Syria the furthest away from Iran. He also allowed Iran to restart their nuclear weapon stockpile.

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Google threatening to pull search engine from Australia

by joey jojo in

government is saying google should pay fees to news media for aggregating news.

google says they will geo-block australia from search if forced to.

raises some interesting questions about how dependant we have all become and how entangled google is in our lives.

Anony Mous

I agree, Sky News seems to be the only sensible media outlet, but often blocked by Facebook and Google as fake news.

I disagree that content platforms should be regulated, unless ran by the government. If they advertise to be open, then block conservative outlets like Facebook/Google does on the regular, they should be held to truth in advertising laws. If they want to admit their bias, then that would be totally fine with me, as long as they are honest.

Governments however should not be allowed to do business with companies that admit their biases to avoid government truth in advertising laws, if you say you are a left-wing oriented site, you get no money. This would put a damper on Amazon and Google cloud products if they wanted to block eg. Parler from their systems, then no government contracts for you.

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JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES: THE EFFECTS OF MILLENARIANISM ON THE MAINTENANCE OF A RELIGIOUS SECT.

by carod2000 in

dear,.

i am doing research on the history of jeovah's witnesses and would like to know if any of you have this research work to share: .

jehovah's witnesses: the effects of millenarianism on the maintenance of a religious sect.

Anony Mous

Many University libraries have access to these types of papers. You may need to be physically there, but most libraries have requirements for open access.

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How Do You Think Election Votes Should Be Counted?

by minimus in

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do you think voters should be required to prove that they are legitimate?.

Anony Mous

Yes, and there is an easy way of doing that. You give people an ID based on their birth certificate and hash that information. You now have an anonymous identifier which you can tie to a vote. This vote can go on a public blockchain. Any party interested can subscribe to the blockchain and verify their own vote from home while their avatars give a plausible deniability.

People that say their votes were tampered with go back to vote again, which submits a cancel vote and a new vote.

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Local Discretion ?

by Jerryh in

can the local groups chose which talk for a given day?

how about the songs?

anything else?.

Anony Mous

The opening songs are a small selection based on the script of the talk. So at the header of the talk there is typically a list of 3-5 songs the speaker can pick from, the direction is to pick songs that weren’t used in the last/next few meetings (there are some that disregard that and then you get situations where the song for the talk and watchtower study is the same) and there is an outline with sentences and scriptures he has to stick to for the talk.

Everything is highly produced, there isn’t much left to personal choice.

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JWs getting into film production what could go wrong

by mickbobcat in

so the cult is getting into film production.

i saw evans piece on the jws opening a studio in australia.

one thing i see is if they use the people who are drawn to acting one they will create internal stars.

Anony Mous

Hollywood is also an echo chamber, everyone in Hollywood that is not extreme-left gets rejected and blacklisted which results in more alphabetsoups being part of the group as you have to be pretty darn left to reject biological realities.

This is the same as saying that there are no alphabetsoup JW's and all JWs normalize child sex offenders - which is true, leftists in general would not be attracted to the message and anyone that does engage in practices or points out the sex offender problem gets promptly kicked out of the group.

There are conservative filmmakers, quite a bit of the best films in the 70s and 80s came from right-wing figures. Some of the best actors around both established and up-and-coming are conservative. You don't hear from them because they have an uphill battle getting recognized. But Jerry Bruckheimer, Matthew McConaughey, Adam Sandler, Vince Vaughn, Joe Pesci, Scott Baio, Jon Voight, John Wayne, Clint Eastwood, Charlton Heston, Keanu Reeves are or were some of the best actors and directors in history, and you haven't seen a good movie since Hollywood started actively blackballing some of these actors - literally look at the top rated movies (by viewers) of all time, the last one was The Dark Knight (2008) which was more than 10 years ago now.

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New Light on Sheep and Goats?

by notsurewheretogo in

lloyd evans has just tweeted a video he will be releasing soon on the "change" to the meaning of the sheep and goats and when that is to occur.. i've missed any discussion on that on here or anywhere?

it seems it was part of the 2020 annual meeting the gb had?.

any info on this?.

Anony Mous

It seems to me lately that this new light depends on which of the 7 is currently writing. It seems like sometimes details on what interpretation is used in talks or writing greatly depends on which of them is saying it.

This then leads to weird reinterpretations across those who are paying attention (a few exJWs and a few hardcore armageddonists) which are later “corrected” by reprints of old material.

I think there are simply too many drunk cooks in the kitchen and they’re just hoping their flock doesn’t notice too much discrepancy from year to year.

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Can we stick to topics that we came that we came to this forum in the first place?

by James Jack in

i don’t care about politics, books you are reading, movies and tv programs you’re watching, etc..

Anony Mous

I think it’s great to see many of us take part in these kind of discourse, in the past we weren’t allowed to comment on politics or participate in voting etc. There isn’t a whole lot going on in JW-land, they literally have been shutting down the religion to save money. This forum isn’t just about JWs, it’s for JWs and regurgitating the copy-pasta from various other fact-based exJW websites would be boring.

Anony Mous

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